Beiträge von Gert im Thema „Neue Hinweise auf Planeten hinter Neptun!“

    Hallo Beisammen,


    Heute gibt es einen Vortrag von Dr. Ann-Marie Madigan (UC Berkeley), der die Bahnanomalien ohne extra Planet erklaert. Der Vortrag wird auch bei Youtube archiviert.


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    Title: The bizarre orbits of minor planets beyond Neptune and Planet Nine
    Speaker: Ann-Marie Madigan (UC Berkeley)
    When: Today, 26 Jan 2016 12:00pm PDT
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    Abstract:


    The major planets in our solar system are on nearly circular orbits in a well-defined
    disk plane. The minor planets, however, take very different paths around the sun.
    Many minor planets are on orbits that tilt 30 degrees or more out of this disk plane;
    bizarrely, as Dr. Madgian will describe in the talk, they all tilt the same way! Theories
    for their unusual orbits include the presence of an undetected super-Earth or 'Planet Nine'
    at hundreds of AU, or an encounter with a passing star which deposited its own minor
    planets in our outer solar system.


    In this talk, Dr. Madigan will show that these theories are unnecessary, and that it is
    the gravitational forces between the minor planets themselves that result in their unusual
    orbital properties. Though individually of low mass, the minor planets together can
    dictate their own dynamics. This explanation suggests that there is a (tilted and highly-
    inclined) disk of minor planets, at least two orders of magnitude more massive than the
    Kuiper Belt awaiting discovery at hundreds of AU. New surveys such as Pan-STARRS
    and DECam will soon verify/falsify this prediction.


    Dr. Madigan will also talk about the recent (yesterday's) suggestion from two Caltech
    scientists of a potential super Earth beyond Neptune, which they termed "Planet Nine".


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    Hallo Beisammen,


    Wie hell (Lichtschwach) soll Nr.IX denn sein? Mal überschlagsweise angenommen Neptun wäre 150AE statt 20AE entfernt, dann wuerde er 7mag schwächer erscheinen. Also 15mag. Das ist doch mitten bei Helligkeiten normaler Asteroiden, und die werden doch jeden Tag gefunden.


    Clear Skies,
    Gert

    Hallo,


    Die ursprüngliche Arbeit ist sicher ehrenwert formuliert und stellt die Wirkung des potentiellen Planete als Hypothese auf. Allerdings macht der Sensationsjournalismus schnell daraus eine 'Endeckung eines neuen Planeten'.


    Z.B. bei Huffington Post : 'Researchers Are Pretty Sure They've Found A New Planet In Our Solar System'


    Wer das liest denkt doch das Neil Armstrong da schon eine US Flagge ins gefrorene Gestein gepiekst hat.


    Aber wahrscheinlich können die ursprünglichen Autoren garnicht vorsichtig genug formulieren, um solche Auswüchse zu verhindern.


    Clear Skies,
    Gert